for an eye would mean that the world would be blind". They are doing it with the intention of establishing adharma.” It is not a question of right and wrong. Reply. It is mostly the victorious side of the story that gets narrated throughout generations. even if the end is good (I think the correct sentence here is: even if Karna aimed it at Arjuna’s forehead, and was about to shoot and kill him. If the Pandavas would have lost, the earth would be strife with evil, and Krishna clearly wasnt manifest on the earth to allow evil to reign. what about adharma that happens to common man in today's world inflicted by corrupt minds, corrupt co-workers, governments and armies? But what matters is its influence on all,” he says. Che guevara was working for achieving something in which he had self-investment.. Krishna's actions are not tactical. I think there is a small correction needed. Seeing this,Jayadrada was absolutely thrilled and relieved, because he thought the battle was over for the day, and he had survived, which meant Arjuna would die that day. Raj.. ur first statement is in itself contradictory.. it seems u r repeating what others have told u. Again Krishna said, “Your friend, who put his life at stake for you, will be slaughtered now if you don’t reach out to him. Reply. Krishna in Mahabharata says, “What they are doing is adharma; what we are doing is also adharma, but we are doing it with an intention of establishing dharma. There has been a dispute over whether Bhagavat Gita was a later addition to Mahabharata, considering its more sublime thoughts and language. In case Che Guevara, again both sides used the similar strategies, just that, unlike Mahabharatha, they were not evenly matched, so Che was bound to be on the losing side against the powerful opposition, and that's what happened, but he certainly managed to create a space for himself in many minds. How can an avatar be opportunistic and claim godliness? So, someone has a good intention, but he/she sees only those things in order to create a big good result. good". : (, Dorin.. questions and you don't just take things as have been written or said, The novel traces the princess Panchaali’s life, beginning with her birth in fire and following her spirited balancing act as a woman with five husbands who have been cheated out of their father’s kingdom. So putting an end to such injustice is far dharmic than just watching talking dharma. U tried hard above.. but it does not cut ice with me. He did not say what he was doing was right – he knew it was wrong. A6: Alas, thats cruel. Sadhguru gave the example of: an eye for an eye, which usually for Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. For one cannot have the benefit of an action without the byproduct of its negative aspect also called 'collateral damage' accompanying it. sadhguru himself says so that you cannot choose any means for the end even if the end is good. but what is the existence of positive with out negative. Comes every Thursday. What they were facing in the war was colossal evil. "In my repeated readings, I started looking at each character from a … Its very simple: Adharma(evil) must be finished by hook or by crook. Publishing who sent me this copy. on a large vision and deep understanding about the respective subject a thief or dacoit prays to god for safely robbing or stealing a house. Sadhguru said that, about apparently good intentions that are not based Mahabharata has been a perennial source of fascination for him, says Mullakkara. From the point of view of mythology Mahabharata stands midway between Vedic and later puranic periods. It is a question of purpose, and of whether you would be successful within the limitations of the law or not. A little evil here and there for a greater good. And many people got confused and left :-). If I miss something here, then please tell me, because I really don't see where is the contradiction in what Sadhguru said. For example, when Arjuna, the third Pandava brother and their best warrior, hesitates to fight against his family and kill so many people, Krishna Read the answer. At times it doesn’t go as deep into Panchaali’s life as I would expect of a story narrated by and about her. That is how I see this situation. Offerings From Sadhguru In Challenging Times, Joint and Musculoskeletal Disorders Program, A manuscript illustration of the Battle of Kurukshetra from Wikipedia, Intricate carvings showing a legend from Mahābhārata, where the warrior Abhimanyu enters the chakra-vyuha - Hoysaleswara temple, Halebid, India from Wikipedia, Map showing Kurukshetra in the state of Haryana, India from Wikipedia, Arjuna slaysJayadrada in the Kurukshetra battle from Wikipedia, Pandavas lose the game of dice and Draupadi presented in the court from Wikipedia, The word samadhi comes from the words “sama” meaning equanimity and “dhi” meaning buddhi or the intellect. Case of Burishwara clearly explains that Krishna used the methods of opponents where ever required, not at every possible opportunity to decimate the opponent. people seems like a fair deal, or something good. All lies, says Krishna by J. Rajasekharan Nair is the author’s interpretation of the events during the Mahabharata war, through Krishna’s point of view. A reimagining of the world-famous Indian epic, the Mahabharat—told from the point of view of an amazing woman. One can thus go on reading it again and again without it becoming stale or boring. refer his video on chi guevara and how he said that an eye for an eye would mean that the world would be blind. In one of the letters from South America to his parents he has said that he wanted to prove to the world that he was right at any cost, even if that meant he had to die.. That is brave and saintly indeed.. “The Mahabharata emerged as a process of retelling.It started out with the Jaya, some 20-25 thousand verses long. Love and respect. EVER...Repeat..>>EVER on battlefield . The Palace of Illusion by Chitra Banerjee Divakaruni is a re-telling of the Indian epic, the Mahabarat, from the perspective of Draupadi. According to Krishna the fair war is only possible when other side is also fair and they do not hit under the belt at every possible opportunity. Don’t do this, Satyaki!” But Satyaki loped off Burishwara’s head, while the latter was sitting with eyes closed. - he is just another human like you and me, isn't it.. what i just questioned was 2 contradictory thoughts that he spoke off". Map showing the place Kurukshetra, in the state of Haryana, India. Krishna has met Arjuna in draupadi’s svambar for the first time. The second day, they started breaking the law, and by the fourteenth, fifteenth day, all law was broken. In case he had the strength, he would have done that, but even an eye for an eye did not help him win. Shraddha Chaugale In the latest episode of Mahabharat, Krishna requested Karna to avoid participating in the war on the request of Kunti. There is no Indian individual who’d hear the word Mahabharata for the first time. YES!!! with due respect to all. But what costs are acceptable ? In the eighteenth book of the Mahabharata, The Bhagavad-Gita (“Song of the Supreme Exalted One”), Krishna appears as the charioteer of Arjuna. Great scholars are already having a long argument on this right/wrong. I can’t attest to how well The Palace of Illusions upholds the legacy of the Mahabharata. Shikhandini told Duryodhan that with the help of her, Dhrishtradyumna and Arjun they can destroy rivals. As opposed to the usual tale told from the point of view of the victors, this entire story is written from Duryodhana’s view. Karna replied back to Krishna that he has to fulfil his duties towards Duryodhan. The way he answered the question with such ease, He made such a complex situation look so simple. It is not about future establishment of dharma.. Mistake by any one of them the owner or the thief will lead to their own results... and then you can't blame god, why I was caught, I already prayed to you or why my house was robbed, I too prayed to you... somehow, we know about what krishna did... and so we all are judging him like a scholars... Get weekly updates on the newest articles, quotes and newsletters right in your mailbox. If they do, it is a crime. Duryodhana told him that this would not be good for their reputation. Arjuna was bent on a fair war and would have lost miserably, if not for Krishna's wisdom (in my view). but, according to me what god is doing is he is neutral and balanced, he is doing nothing and just watching. But Satyaki was exalted, because he had been able to take revenge at last. Krishna Dharma is a practicing Hindu priest and renowned translator of the world’s most popular, award-winning editions of India’s great epics, the Mahabarata and the Ramayana.Appearing regularly on the radio, Krishna Dharma is also a frequent contributor to the international press. Everyone had put their arms down. Namaste. Questioner: Krishna in Mahabharata, always talked about dharma and adharma, but during the Kurukshetra war, he used deceit to kill most of the great warriors, such as Bhishma and Dronacharya. He did not know what had happened. And due to this reason, none of the existing text can have a verbatim attribut… He was for the Dharma that can be followed by both the sides, just that the Kauravas were not keen at all. 1. It’s just a workshop to push minds for a virtuous stand out against impractical odds. Every one in the story as far as i read, did a mistake willingly... even if they know that it's wrong (adharma) but, Abhimanyu...who's just a 17 year old boy, who never made a mistake as far as the story is up to, died in the war. Someone described how they had surrounded him from all sides and slain him. Daily musings from the mystic. Narrating the events from Panchaali’s perspective, author explores Panchaali’s role in the conflict between the Pandavas and the Kauravas. Why would he give up his dharmic badge to help a handful of warriors in exile ? Unbelievable !!!!! sumit, I really appreciate something about you, and that is you have many Which video are you refering to? Meanwhile, we never lose sight of her strategic duels with her mother-in-law, her complicated friendship with the enigmatic Krishna, or her secret attraction to the mysterious man who is her husbands’ most dangerous enemy. When they were at an advantage, there was no dharma for them. In the world of 'dwaita', it is the rule. Relevant to today’s war-torn world, The Palace of Illusions takes us back to a time that is half history, half myth, and wholly magical. I think there is confusion in this arguement. Relevant to today’s war-torn world, The Palace of Illusions takes us back to a time that is half history, half myth, and wholly magical. Karna in Mahabharat is depicted as one of the most complex characters. Let's take Shakuni … Since Author Chitra embraces her first person narrator, the epic scope of the source material suddenly becomes more personal. Both Krishna and Arjuna were screaming, “Stop! I dont think it demands any explanation for what krishna did. Abhimanyu enters chakravyuha - stone carving at the Hoysaleswara temple, Halebid, India. Pandava won, that why we still are believing in dharma, satya, suppose in case Kaurava, won His portrayal as a tragic hero is an especially unique within body of works in Sanskrit drama. that is: if you go by that as a general rule, the whole world may The way I can understand.. And many a time Sadhguru has said the intention is important because action could be limited by the outside and this article is very much consistent in ideas. Anti-venom administered to save life of a snake bite victim is also prepared using the same poison. But I still do not find it right. Sanjeev " how do you know that krishna was established in present". Editor's Note: Watch the Leela series, where Sadhguru explores the life and path of Krishna. Regardless, it is a beautifully-written, moving story about Panchaali, the Pandavas, and the Kauravas. Mahabharat brings to life one of the greatest Indian mythologies of all times. Krishna knew his abilities and limitations, and that Satyaki could not defeat Burishwara. "Multiple level of truths" yes there is multiple of truths, whatever you experience that is truth for you. What are you talking about now?” Ashamed of the act that he had committed the day before, Burishwara put his head down. Here are a few quotes by Sadhguru on choice, choicelessness and what it means to really choose. The Silkworm by Robert Galbraith (Cormoran Strike #2), A Hiatus from the Loaded Past by Snehashree Mandal. When we are talking eye for an eye the focus is on a tactical retaliation coming out of not knowing what else to do. Eshwari " Sorry i could not grasp your arguement as i really dont know what is athma". We view them from our myopic, monotheistic (most of us being educated based on european-christain standards) point of view. Also, Mahabharat shakes the concept of truth, which is relative to a particular situation and subject to change with time and point of view. The next day, they formed a huge protective formation forJayadrada so that he would not get killed. about Krishna :-). So in that context I think Arjuna took a vow: “By tomorrow sundown, I will have killed Jayadrada. Brown, Dunbar, Tirro and Witt, states that Krishna is the ninth and most recognizable incarnation of Vishnu. Krishna in Mahabharata – Treachery at Kurukshetra. In fact, many of Ram's, Krishna's actions are not understandable. “Krishna is 99% human in the epic. The Mahabharata was first written down in Sanskrit, ancient India’s premier literary language, and ascribed to a poet named Vyasa about 2,000 years ago, give or take a few hundred years. What "present", everything in present only, i don't see anything in past or future, everything i experience is present, i can experience only the present. It is difficult to accept that this article has been written by sadhguru. A7: Very Wrong. ), each character is a puzzle piece that can acquire multiple places on the board. Just because someone is called a "sadhguru" by his followers.. means nothing. was … Satyaki, a close friend of Krishna and Arjuna, had an old feud to settle with Burishwara, who was over 70 years of age but still a great warrior. Imagine the situation what would be we, for us all pandava would be enemy and krishna would be the enemy no. But I think one should not get too much attached to a certain image of Sadhguru because he is never the same. become blind. But, when the inevitable has happened he ensured that the result is complete. The whole argument should stop if everyone seems from Karma palan of individuals point of view. He wanted to quit the battle and go home. For example, various kind of people going to Dhyanalinga one who don't know anything he sees Dhyanalinga as just a stone, it is his experience and it is absolute truth for him, but for somebody else it is their Guru, moment they enter the temple they feel the energy and bliss of their Guru. The one who is in present can decide to do anything for establishing DHARMA, as far as possible within the legal framework but if it is must will break the law also but in very selective and do or die situations. Sometimes you need to fight with evil with weapons and not words to prevent self annihilation even on the dharmic path. I don't take this as Sadhguru's advice for the world Dailybhaskar.com How can you let someone kill him now? In the epic Mahabharata, Abhimanyu was the son of Pandava prince Arjuna and Yadava princess Subhadra.He was a disciple of his maternal uncles Krishna and Balrama.He was killed unfairly on the 13th day of Kurukshetra War.In the war, Abhimanyu killed warriors including Rukmartha, Brihadbala, Laksmana (Duryodhana's son), Dushmanara (Dushyasana's 2nd son), 7 foster brothers of Karna, sons … People did what they wanted and killed each other at will. I hv an ugly mind which does not need appreciation. Ofcourse there are many people who think they have great ideas to implement in the world, but along the history we have seen what did those who appealed to any means for their "good" intention. He looked around and said to Arjuna, “How could you do this? But when Krishna does, how does it qualify as leela? Many times, Krishna did such things. He went next to his chariot and sat down in lotus posture. Their point of view is quite different from ours. Ajaya: Rise of Kali is a 2015 Indian novel of mythological fiction written by Anand Neelakantan. Q7: If killing is right or wrong?. But I think we had enough of them, there's no need for such proofs anymore. that, but from your context: "you cannot choose any means for the end Krishna as the supreme Vishnu wills the changes of the Yugas. because what we get from Mahabharata is just Ved vyas narration basically we read vyas’s point of view on the event of Mahabharata. Sadhguru always emphasizes on acting to the extent it is needed for the situation. Let's see if there exist any relics that can point to a knowledge of Krishna as well! You have entered an incorrect email address! I don't thinks so... the eye wat he mentions is athma eye for an eye which is bcoz without athma even if we have eye we cannot see when we see with that EYE everything is blind we can see and feel just athma alone. proved to be a big fail in the end. Krishna was just ensuring the Dharma was preserved and that evil did not prevail. Won't you agree with that? Currently the Dharma of people depends on how may questions they are capable of thinking. The Pandavas were men of god, of the dharma, of Krishna. But you should not just take it like that, you just see if it makes any sense to you or not. In the epics for welfare of humanity men and gods act together shown at places even fighting against each other. Else with speculations and concoctions one can never understand the Supreme Lord..You have to fall in Love with Krishna to know Him... HARE KRISHNA. I may see 1, 2... maybe 3 but not too much more. Of the many aspects of Krishna in Mahabharata, one of the most confusing is his use of deceit during the war. To accept it or not depends on the way our minds are. Get alerts on Sadhguru's latest videos, his schedule, Isha events, and more. But what he was trying to achieve was right. Then the game of dice, which was total cheating, and the disgrace of trying to disrobe Draupadi in public. When Burishwara was about to decapitate Satyaki, Arjuna turned and shot the arrow at Burishwara. Here also you have no choice either you can believe or The idea that the any good purpose/ motive to be established by any means is correct is a question itself, IS YOUR IDEA. Dorin "Why should we be concerned about images of sadhguru". In both way i experienced it. I know you wouldn’t have done this by yourself. tool to prevent a far greater evil from happening. Morgenstern has created a tale out of tales, a fable out of the human need to seek and explain, to dream and understand. "While we have all consumed the 'Mahabharat' all our lives, the uniqueness of our film is seeing the same story from the point of view of Draupadi, who is one of the most significant heroines in our country's cultural history. From kauravas point of view, Krishna was an enemy. In my understanding there's no confusion, Sadhguru is still saying the same thing, he's not defending Krishna here. I doubt that a Che Guevara would be qualified for such a thing. Let us put this conversation to an end with this excellent remark I heard in an English movie long back: " Justice cannot be done without a little bit of injustice". NEW DELHI–If you are in Delhi, you may want to watch play “Mahabharat” written by and directed by Puneet Issar. The war of Kurukshetra itself was the great act of Adharma and it belonged to both sides. The weapon knocked off Arjuna’s crown and made him faint for some time, but it did not enter his head as intended. u see not only with ur eyes it is because u have athma u see . Non violence is in the fact of not being the one to initiate trouble in the first place. What is the justification? Krishna, too, in his many-faceted character, shines as an eternal presence, only revealed in the end for his true identity. However, Ajaya is a narration of the Mahabharata from the Kaurava’s point of view, the vanquished. Panchaali is a fiery female redefining for us a world of warriors, gods, and the ever-manipulating hands of fate. From the point of view of mythology Mahabharata stands midway between Vedic and later puranic periods. He has a bad habit, that his heart gets soft, softer than the butter for his devotees: He accepts to be called a thief (makhanchor), to fulfill the desires of gopis to see him. The kauravas were fighting the war out of a complex arrangement of envy and hatred towards the pandavas which was a development from childhood days.. moreover they also had lust and greed for the land.. Krishna was fighting for dharma which means in the moment he would not allow the party which is lost in unconscious intentions collectively to achieve a position of victory or power.. Hello sumit, I see what you're saying but..."an eye for an eye would mean that the world would be blind" So it seems that the ultimate outcome is definitely not good. As a woman she was exploited by her father, Drupad, her Pandava husbands, and even her friend, Lord Krishna. For me this makes perfect Panchaali enters this world through a holy fire, an unwanted boon granted by the gods in addition to her brother, Dhristadhyumna, the child destined to kill their father’s greatest enemy, Drauna. Major Characters: Panchaali, Arjun, Yudhishthir, Bhim, Krishna, Duryodhan, Karna, Dhristadhyumna, Drauna, Bhishma, Narration: First Person (Draupadi’s Point of view). Like kunti for hiding truth,karn for fighting against pandavas,draupadi for being arrogant at some points.etc. On the contrary, one discovers different layers of meaning with each reading. Even when Krishna advocates what the epic dubs dharma, the results can be hard to stomach. Burishwara’s right hand got severed. He didn't see only steps 1, 2, 3, but the very end, or probably a certain stage that people needed to face in that period of time, in that era. Was colossal evil story that spans Seven Galaxies and includes many heroes and.! And by the fourteenth, fifteenth day, all dharma was preserved that. 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